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damning new testimony in the derek chauvin murder trial. the minneapolis police chief telling the jury his former officer absolutely violated department policy when he kept his knee on george floyd's neck for 9 1/2 minutes. the e.r. doctor who treated floyd also taking the stand today, testifying lack of oxygen was likely the cause of death. also tonight congressman matt gaetz making it clear that he is not resigning. he's still adding to his legal team. i want to get straight to the dramatic testimony today in the trial of derek chauvin. cnn's sara sidner reports from minneapolis. >> reporter: the prosecution's 21st witness in former officer derek chauvin's murder trial was
his ultimate boss, the chief of police. >> what is the officer supposed to do to a person in crisis? >> it's an attempt to de-escalate that situation. >> chief medaria arradondo testified he first learned of the severity of his officer's actions against george floyd by a community member. >> close to midnight, a community member had contacted me and said that, chief, almost ver verbatim, but said, chief, have you seen the video of your officer choking and killing that man? >> reporter: the chief testified chauvin violated the department's neck restraint policy, and he detailed its use of force policy, which also takes into account the severity of a potential crime. >> clearly when mr. floyd was no longer responsive and even motionless, to continue to apply
that level of force to a person proned out, handcuffed behind their back, that -- that in no way, shape, or form is anything that is by policy. it's not part of our training, and it's certainly not part of our ethics or our values. >> reporter: we also heard from the emergency room doctor who treated floyd when the ambulance dropped him off at the hospital unresponsive. >> did you pronounce him formally dead? >> yes. >> did you receive a report that he had received cpr from any of the officers who may have been on the scene on may 25th, 2020? >> no. it's well known that any amount of time that a patient spends in cardiac arrest without immediate cpr markedly decreases the chance of a good outcome. >> reporter: dr. bradford langen
feld testified he believes george floyd dies from apoxia or los angeles of oxygen. the prosecution is trying to prove it was from the 9 minutes 29 seconds on his neck. the defense is trying to refute that, saying it was illicit drugs in floyd's system, coupled with his medical history. >> certain drugs can cause hypoxia, agreed? specifically fentanyl? >> that's correct. >> how about methamphetamine? >> it can. >> a combination of the two? >> yes. >> reporter: but the doctor testified paramedics normally report to him drug overdoses or extreme agitation. >> did they say to you for purposes of caring or giving treatment to mr. floyd that they felt he had suffered a drug overdose? >> not in the information they gave, no. >> reporter: the commander who was in charge of police training back in may testified what she saw chauvin do to floyd was not consistent with their training. >> and how does this differ?
>> i don't know what kind of improvised position that is. so that's not what we train. >> i want to bring in sara sidner now. sara, good evening to you. the prosecution asked the police chief a lot of questions about the department's use of force policy. talk to me about that and what it means for chauvin. >> reporter: yeah. i mean he really went into detail, and he seemed like he had encyclopedic knowledge of the rules and regulations. but the prosecution also put up on the screen for the chief to read some of the reasons why use of force would be necessary, and that is, for example, if a person is actively resisting or trying to flee and if the officer's life is in danger or other people around them are in danger as well. and the last one was that they have to consider the severity of the crime. and if you think about it, it was over a $20 alleged counterfeit bill that george floyd is accused of paying for cigarettes for. so if you look at that in
totality of what was going on there and the testimony that you heard, the police chief was like, this is not in concert with what our training is when it comes to use of force and certainly not having his knee on his neck in the prone position for 9 minutes and 29 seconds. he also said it wasn't ethically a part of what the office should do, and he was very clear about their role in society and their role here in minneapolis, that they are part of the community to serve and protect the community. don. >> sara sidner, thank you so much. joining me now, cnn's senior legal analyst laura coates and political commentator bakari sellers. good to see you. laura, today the minneapolis police chief testifying that chauvin's actions were in no way, shape, or form part of their department's policy or training and, quote, certainly not part of our ethics or values. how powerful was that testimony?
>> this was incredibly damning. i mean the word that sticks in my mind is sara's, encyclopedic knowledge. you're talking about a contrast from last week when the strategy was this veteran lieutenant that oversees homicide, you really have an out of touch status. you don't don't know what use of force looks like in a patronizing sort of way. this is a person who sets the policy. there's no way you're going to be able to tell him what the training looks like, what the policy is, and having this person after multiple members of the law enforcement community distance themselves from derek chauvin and essentially say he's not one of us, what he did was not what we do, and making that very important leap that a prosecutor has to from reasonable use of force, going over the line to now criminal assault. remember, that has to be part of the underlying element that is proven, that there was a
transformation, a conversion from reasonable use of force to criminal assault. they're building a really good case for that. >> attorney bakari sellers, six members -- well, you're an attorney, right? i'm not -- >> yeah. i had to take the bar, yeah. i'm not giving that back. >> i think it's important for people to know that, and that's why you're here speaking about it. so six members of the minneapolis police department have now taken the stand in this trial for the prosecution against chauvin. what kind of a message does that send to the jury? >> and i think that's really powerful because in many of these cases, you don't see law enforcement testifying against one of their own. i mean it started off where you are the emts come forward and testify, but you've had sergeants, commanders, and now the chief of police speak out against someone who is a member of their own ranks. we cannot discount how powerful that is. and one of the things that the prosecution has done is they have followed through with their promise that they laid out in opening arguments. many times prosecutors get
tripped up when they make an argument in opening and then they don't follow through. but here day after day after day, they've continued to build that case, and it was so strong that it's very difficult to see -- i practice criminal defense. it's very difficult to see how a criminal defense attorney can wiggle his way out of a guilty verdict on any one of the charges that is present before the jury because we do know based upon the testimony today that nothing he did, nothing he did was reasonable. and so that's when you start to teeter out of the scope and you start to recognize that there was some malice, that these words that are very important when it comes down to intent, there was recklessness, wanton disregard. all of those things matter because he was not following the proper procedure and protocol. last week was about compassion. it pulled at our heartstrings. but today was probably the day where the prosecution got themselves a guilty verdict if they're able to get it. >> laura, do you agree with that? >> well, you know, a jury pool
is comprised of not just 12 human beings, but 12 wild cards. so in terms of managing expectations, there are so many different elements here, but bakari is right about the idea of the presentation of evidence, whether it is persuasive ultimately is another question. but remember part of the role of prosecutors for the very reasons that bakari is talking about, they're aware of the psychology of the benefit of the doubt that is extended to police officers in this country. nobody believes that an officer wakes up in the morning, puts on his or her uniform and goes out with an intent to kill wearing that badge. the fact that it has happened in this scenario is part of the factual predicate of these charges. the prosecution has to be aware they're going to have to distance and make the jurors comfortable with prosecuting not a police officer, per se, but somebody who is acting under the color of law, somebody who was using that badge as a pretextual reason to commit assault.
so making these cases about the different law enforcement officials who are saying he's not one of us, what he's doing is not what we do, it goes back to that opening statement that this is not about all police. it's about this person. the prosecution is very aware they've got to make she's jurors feel comfortable about prosecuting somebody who said they were a police officer but was acting in a way that made them a cop in name only. and that is where they have to go. >> listen, bakari, i'm glad that you mentioned you practice criminal defense because you're looking at this from the sense, i would imagine, the way the defense is conducting themselves in court. today we also heard from the e.r. doctor who treated george floyd testifying that he most likely was killed by lack of oxygen, not a drug overdose. it was another testimony that was clearly damning for the defense. am i correct? >> it was, but then you heard words like asphyxia and then when the criminal defense attorney -- he didn't score many
points today, and he hasn't scored -- i check with laura about this often. he hasn't scored many points throughout this trial. but he did say would fentanyl lead to asphyxia? the answer was yes. or methamphetamines, would that lead to asphyxia? the answer was yes. you can see he's trying to build out this argument that's going to come down to causation. if they get a guilty verdict it will be because of the testimony today. that still is going to come down to causation and what ultimately caused his death. the jurors are going to have to go in the back and determine whether or not that knee was a substantial cause of his death or whether or not there was something else. for me, you, and laura sitting here, we probably think it's patently absurd to think anything other than the action of the officer. however, these jurors are wild cards, so all it takes is one. i keep reminding people it only takes one person to go back there and think in their mind frame that this is a trial about george floyd, not derek chauvin,
that those drugs in his system were the cause of death, and then you will have a verdict that no one here can be proud of. so it's still a very long way to go. but today was a good day for the prosecution. >> thank you both. i appreciate it. i'll see you soon. republican congressman matt gaetz says he is absolutely not resigning. he is denying most of the allegations about him but not all of them. our new scented oils give you our best smelling scents. now crafted with more natural ingredients and infused with essential oils that are 100% natural. give us one plug and connect to nature.
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republican congressman matt gaetz going on the defensive and trying to discredit the justice department investigation into him. the trump ally writing in an op-ed that he is not going anywhere and denying allegations of sex trafficking and prostitution. but it comes as gaetz is ramping up his legal team. here's cnn's paula reid. >> reporter: good evening, don. today congressman gaetz published an op-ed where he tried to frame the ongoing criminal investigation as another political witch hunt. he also denied allegations of prostitution and sleeping with an underage girl, writing, first i have never, ever paid for sex and, second, i as an adult man have not slept with a 17-year-old. one thing gaetz did not address in his op-ed is the separate set of allegations first reported by
cnn that he was showing nude pictures of women he allegedly sle slept with to other lawmakers, including when he was on or near the floor of the house. that conduct is not under criminal investigation, but it's another in a series of escalating scandals surrounding the lawmaker. and even as he denies the allegations in that op-ed today, cnn has learned gaetz is building a legal team to defend him as this moves forward. his lead attorney has added another lawyer with experience in white collar crimes. it's not clear when the second attorney was added, but it suggests they may be preparing to possibly have to defend against financial transactions in addition to any specific sexual encounters. now, today we were also hearing from a former gaetz staffer who said the fbi reached out to him. the staffer is nathan nelson. he's gaetz's former director of military affairs. and in a florida press conference today, he said two
fbi agents questioned him at his house last week about gaetz's alleged criminal conduct. they apparently asked him if he left his job working for the congressman because of this type of behavior. now, nelson denied having any knowledge of any illegal activities. he said his departure from gaetz's office last fall was not related to the federal investigation. but, don, nelson is one of the only people who has come out to defend gaetz. but when actually pressed by reporters on the specifics of the criminal allegations, nelson said he didn't actually have any specific knowledge of the investigation, and he actually hasn't even spoken to the congressman in months. don. >> wow. paula, thank you so much. i appreciate that. i want to bring in now cnn's senior political analyst kirsten powers and dave erinberg. kirsten, gaetz says he is absolutely not resigning. he is embracing the trump tactic of not backing down.
he's thin on republican allies, but the gop hasn't acted against him so far. are they just going to wait to see what the investigation turns up? >> they're going to wait for that, or they're going to wait for some sort of sign from donald trump. but i think the fear is they don't want to do anything that's going to upset donald trump because matt gaetz is somebody who is, you know, very trumpy and very allied with donald trump, much in the way that marjorie taylor greene is and can remember that the republicans were not willing to hold her accountable really for any of her behavior. and that was precisely because donald trump was standing behind her. we don't really know what donald trump thinks about what's going on. he hasn't really signaled that. but i suspect that the republicans are waiting either for an indictment, and even then, still waiting to see what donald trump thinks about this because they don't like matt gaetz. they'd be happy to throw him overboard, but they don't want
to go against the trump supporters or donald trump. >> kirsten, you mentioned marjorie taylor greene, and i'm trying to figure out where the q folks are because these are allegations of child sex trafficking. isn't that their whole thing? >> right. using logic, logic, there's your first mistake, logic. so i think that -- yeah, i think the bigger thing is where donald trump comes down on things. >> got it. >> that is always what everything boils down to is what does donald trump think. >> got it. dave, i want to ask you about this former gaetz staffer, nathan nelson. he says he was questioned by the fbi last week. this investigation has been going on since the final months of the trump administration. what do you make of the timeline in terms of this wrapping up? >> well, first that nelson guy, he didn't provide any information. i would have called this press conference a nothing burger, but that would be an insult to nothing burgers. what a waste of time today. i think this investigation is going to wrap up pretty soon
because usually you generally talk to the target or the subject towards the end. and the fact that gaetz blew up this whole undercover investigation into extortion, i think just seems like it's all coming to a head. and i have to believe that there is going to be a charge pretty soon. now, i saw his op-ed today, and he's relying on two defenses right now. that is he's never paid for sex, or that he is as an adult man has not slept with a 17-year-old. even if you accept both of those defenses as true, he could still be charged and convicted with child sex trafficking because it does not require that you pay for sex or that you had sex. if you enticed or recruited or transported someone in exchange for something of value, that may not be cash, or that may be paid by joel greenberg, you're still guilty of human trafficking. >> okay. so two things.
so it sounds like you're saying he is in a lot more trouble than we're believing right now and that he knows it because he is beefing up his legal team. again, may be in a lot more trouble. he's beefing up his legal team. both are former federal prosecutors. what does that tell you? >> it tells me that he is relying on people from the same swamp that he is deriding in his op-ed. on one side he's making the case in the court of public opinion that it's the swamp that's out to get me, the deep state. but when he needs a lawyer in a court of law, he's turning to people with extensive experience in that same department of justice. you notice he's not hiring sidney powell or rudy giuliani because when he's worried about his future freedom, he doesn't want a huckster. he wants professional lawyers and that's what he's depending on. you're going to see two different defenses, one that he makes in the court of public opinion, extortion and the deep state, and the other one that he makes in a court of law. >> you can tell a lot about a
person by who represents them, correct? >> correct. >> so, dave, listen. kirsten -- excuse me. kirsten, i want to ask you. in his op-ed, gaetz didn't address the cnn reporting last week that says that he showed naked photos of women that he claimed he had slept with to lawmakers on the house floor. doj investigation aside, doesn't gop need to do something to address this part of it? >> you would think. i mean that would be -- >> that logic again. >> yeah, the logic. the logic. and that you keep expecting a different result. it's really cute. but if you think about the fact that they didn't hold marjorie taylor greene responsible, right? so they don't hold people responsible if they think there's going to be some sort of backlash from the trump base, which is completely dictated on what donald trump does, and nobody really know what's donald trump is thinking. now, i'm not saying that's the
right way to be handling it. i don't think that it is. i think that they should be, you know, dealing with this issue. it's a pretty serious thing to be doing, you know, on the house floor. it's unacceptable. it's creating a sexually hostile environment. it's disrespectful to women. we could sit here all night and talk about all the things that are wrong with it. but they seem unwilling to deal with this because they don't want to do anything that could potentially upset the trump base. it's just the same story over and over again. >> i've got to ask one more question. we're going a bit long here. but, dave, where do you see this going next? i mean because i just spoke to you just a couple days ago, and every time we speak or i see you do an interview, there has been some new development that seems to be a bit more trouble for matt gaetz. >> don, there are really three investigations here, and it's the third one that's most problematic for gaetz.
first you have the investigation into allegations that he was involved in human trafficking. you have the allegation of extortion, which is going nowhere. but also it's the investigation into joel greenberg that's the key here because i believe that joel greenberg probably has already flipped on matt gaetz, and why wouldn't he? he's facing decades in prison himself. he is stuck in a jail cell awaiting trial because he violated the terms of his pretrial release. so he has every incentive to flip on the biggest fish here, matt gaetz. and i suspect he's already done so. >> wow. thank you, dave. thank you, kirsten. i appreciate it. hundreds of bills in nearly every state being pushed by republican lawmakers to make voting harder. one big city mayor speaking out against what his own state legislature is pushing. that's next. plus trump campaign donors say that they were duped. we're going to tell you why they're claiming fraud. twentieth-century transformation. he did a lot of living before i knew him.
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texas governor greg abbott choosing not to throw the first pitch at the rangers home opener tonight, making that decision in response to major league baseball moving the all-star game out of atlanta in protest of georgia's new law restricting access to voting. it's part of a growing rift between corporate america and republicans. major corporations like coca-cola, delta, and american airlines speaking out against bills that would restrict voting. right now more than 360 bills that would limit voting access have been introduced in 47 states. that's according to the brennan center tally. with georgia and texas seeing the highest number of those new bills. so joining me now to discuss is houston mayor sylvester turner. mayor, good to see you.
>> good to see you again, don. >> you know this is a big thing, and it's going to be very important for our democracy and for what happens at the ballot box. >> absolutely. >> the brennan center tally found that texas has introduced the largest number of restrictive voting bills. what do you think is the most damaging aspect of them for houston residents, specifically voters of color? >> there are several things, don. these bills restrict early voting hours. they limit the number of voting locations, and they restrict the number of drop boxes that you can have in the county. they even require people with disabilities to provide additional information about their disabilities. they want to have poll workers to actually video record people voting when they need assistance. if they have a reasonable suspicion that something may be going on. can you imagine how suppressive and intimidating that can be?
they impose civil and criminal penalties on local officials if they should violate any of these so-called laws. these are bills that are highly suppressive in nature, highly intimidating, and pretty much intended to restrict people's access to the voting booth. >> we have to remember, again, this was all built on the big lie. this is a solution really in search of a problem because there was no widespread voter fraud that needed to be corrected and these bills needed to be placed into law. you held an event today with elected community and business leaders speaking out against the bills being considered. you say the bills are part of a national assault on voting rights. besides h.r. 1, known as the for the people act, what do you need from the federal government? >> well, number one, hopefully the federal government is paying very close attention to what's happening across the country. as you indicated, these bills have been filed in about 43
different states, and it's a part of a national campaign to restrict voting. in texas, senate bill 7 and house bill 6 are moving quickly through the legislative process. there is no problem here that these bills are intended to fix. these bills are intended to restrict access to the voting booth, and hopefully the federal government and people in congress and the united states senate are taking note. and i hope they will not allow a filibuster rule to remain in place that as the senator from georgia said, that will protect the minority in the senate but at the same time won't protect people's right to vote in all 50 states. >> mayor, republicans have long been the party of corporate america, but now that relationship is being strained over voting rights. give me your reaction to seeing businesses speaking out against these efforts to restrict voting.
>> well, number one, let me applaud them. let me applaud the mlb for standing up and for taking definitive action. voter suppression is not good business, okay? voter suppression is not good business. it is important for corporations and businesses to protect their employees that are diverse, to be sensitive to their customers, to people who are doing business with them. and, don, i can remember what martin luther king says years ago, that in the end, people will not be remembered -- enemies will not be remembered for the words that they spoke, but what will be remembered will be the silence of our friends. and so this is not a time when people can be on the sideline. this is not a partisan battle. voter suppression is not partisan. it's not democrat, republican, independent. voter suppression is wrong, and these bills represent jim crow
2.0. and everyone has an obligation, especially businesses and others, to speak up and say no. this is a defining moment in the history of this country. and i think down the stretch, people will ask, where did you stand, and what did you do when these bills were going through these legislative chambers? >> amen. this is what i chose to do. i had a chance to act, and this is what i chose to do. i had a chance to say something. this is what i chose to say. thank you, mayor. i appreciate it. good to see you. >> thanks, don. congratulations on your book. >> thank you very much. i really appreciate it. >> sure. swindling supporters? trump's campaign refunding tens of millions of dollars after leaving some supporters with drained bank accounts? ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™ with tremfya®,
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during the 2020 race, former president trump loved boasting about the amount of donations his campaign was getting. now we're learning how the trump campaign donation site used trickery to get many supporters to make recurring donations, which ended up draining their bank accounts. "the new york times" first reporting how that led to a flurry of fraud complaints and forced refunds. here's cnn's sunlen serfaty. >> i was mad. i was sure it was some sort of a scam. >> reporter: last september, russ blatt's brother contributed
$500 to the trump campaign. within a month, stacy blatt was bouncing checks, his bank accounts drained. >> we saw the six withdrawals of $500 totaling $3,000 that had been taken from his account starting in mid-september and over the course of a month, they took $3,000. >> reporter: ross had become his brother's financial power of attorney due to his brother's failing health. the blatts realized only then that stacy was signed up to make recurring donations to the trump campaign. stacy blatt died of cancer in february. >> they just kept taking money out until there was no money left. >> reporter: and stacy was not alone. a "new york times" investigation revealing the alarming extent and reach of a calculated trump campaign scheme to get supporters signed up for recurring donations by default and later adding a second pre-checked box to double a donor's contribution. according to "the times," the
trump campaign internally called it a money bomb, a tactic that experts say is intentionally designed to be easily overlooked. when supporters contributed online, a yellow box to mac a recurring donation came pre-checked, requiring donors who wanted to make a onetime contribution to opt out. and it wasn't easy to spot. >> he didn't remember seeing anything like that. he thought he was giving a onetime $500 donation. it seemed like it was deceitful. >> reporter: thousands overlooked it, and the trump campaign ran with it? >> the fall or the late summer as the trump campaign faced financial pressures, they made a really important change, which is they took that box and instead of taking donations out every month, they began taking them out every week. >> reporter: banks and credit card companies have been flooded with calls from donors, "the times" reports, leading the trump campaign and rnc to refund a massive amount of money. "the new york times" reporting that from the period of mid-october through december of
2020, the trump campaign and the rnc made more than 530,000 refunds amounting to more than $64 million. by comparison, the biden campaign and the dnc refunded 37,000 donations amounting to $5.6 million. >> we did very well with the fund-raising stuff, but a lot of it came in small donations. >> reporter: the boost of money that came with the recurring donations came when president trump was in need of it the most, just weeks before the election and short on cash. >> so that money that they took from donors through recurring donations really does add up functionally to being a de facto loan with no interest from their own supporters. >> reporter: and refunded only after the election with funds the campaign collected to promote baseless claims of election fraud. >> that's cnn's sunlen serfaty. former president trump releasing a statement calling "the new york times" reporting misleading, saying, many people were so enthusiastic that they
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tonight the cdc warning coronavirus infections are up for the fourth straight week. the cdc director rochelle walensky saying variants are partly to blame. but health experts also warning about the dangers of states relaxing safety measures too quickly. so i want you to take a look at this. texas rangers playing their home opener tonight, selling over 38,000 tickets, the only mlb team allowing 100% capacity seating at their ballpark. no other mlb team is allowing more than 50% capacity attendance at this time. so joining me now is cnn medical analyst dr. jonathan reiner. doctor, good evening to you. so here we go, right? if you look at these pictures, they're from texas, this opening game tonight. pretty unbelievable. what do you think when you see these crowds? >> not so smart. we're smarter than this. we're still in the middle of a pandemic. texas today had 3,000 cases, one
of the highest numbers of cases in the united states. there's still a lot of virus around. and if you think about what you do at a baseball game, you know, you go get a hot dog. you go get a beer. you're sitting with something in your hand, eating and drinking the entire game, talking to your neighbors. there's a lot of close contact, and the virus doesn't care that you may be done with this pandemic. the virus is not done with us. and if we want to put this out once and for all, we need to be smarter than this, and this is just not smart. it's just not smart. >> some experts have called for delaying second vaccine doses in hopes it will leave supply available to get more americans their first dose. dr. anthony fauci questions that. he says that he's worried about how long immunity would last after just one dose. what do you think about that? >> so i agree with dr. fauci. look, the three vaccines that have been licensed for use in the united states are fabulous, and the way they've been trialed is the way that they should be
given. the j&j vaccine as a single dose and the two mrna vaccines as double doses. and when given in those dosing regimens, their efficacy is incredibly high and their safety is also very high. we don't have a vaccine pipeline problem now. there are 40 million doses of vaccines that have been distributed that are waiting to be put into arms. we don't have a shortage of vaccines. i know what dr. osterholm is getting at when he's been the big proponent of this plan. but at this point we have plenty of vaccines, and we have shown the ability over the last week to vaccinate as many as 4 million people a day with about two-thirds of that first shots. we don't have a problem getting enough vaccine. we should stick with the dosing regimen. >> this was interesting. this cdc report finds that a bar-opening event in rural illinois was linked to 46 covid
cases, a school closure affecting 650 children, and the hospitalization of one long-term care facility resident. this is a rural area. it's not a city. it shows how dangerous it still is. >> yeah, and it also suggests to me that there were a lot of people who went to that bar who were not vaccinated because there was a lot -- there were a lot of targets of opportunity for the virus. bars and restaurants are among the most risky venues during this pandemic. you know, i would just plead with my fellow citizens to say, look, if you have not been vaccinated and you go into a bar, you are taking an enormous risk, and it's not just a risk to you. it's a risk to your parents and your friends and your neighbors. it's just not worth it. if you've had both your vaccines or the single dose of the j&j and you're a couple weeks past
your last dose and you want to go into a place and get a drink or have dinner, have at it. but if you've not been vaccinated, it is not safe to eat indoors or particularly have a drink at a bar. >> yeah, but people are doing it because -- they're doing it because they don't want to go get tested. they figure if they do go get tested, they're going to have to quarantine, right? they're going to have to report. that means other people around them. it's very dangerous when someone does that, when they sort of defy the rules -- not sort of defy the rules, when they do defy the rules that way. >> again, this is not just about them. it's about us. and their behavior -- you know, if you're doing something foolish and it just affects you, well, you know, that's your problem. but if you do something foolish and it affects me, it's my problem. and that is what is happening all over the country, particularly in young people. now, this virus is surging through young, largely unvaccinated people.
that's where our vaccines should go. it should go to the young and unvaccinated and, you know, the folks that maybe should display a little bit more maturity, a little bit more community spirit, restrain themselves until this pandemic is put down once and for all. we have the ability to do this, and it's coming soon. but more people are going to die if we continue to act foolishly. the texas rangers today, that was really shameless behavior. that was this political performative thing that they did, which has the ability to spike cases in texas and cost people their lives. really shame on them. >> yeah. thank you, doctor. i can see it's been a long day. you're still in your scrubs. >> going home now. >> all right. good. thank you, dr. reiner. i appreciate it. be well. >> have a good night, don. >> you too. thanks for watching, everyone. our coverage continues.
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